Plus Presentation Skills.
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Our Wing Aviation Officer stated in the Calling Order for his training course that it was open to all staff and MOI cadets
It may be different in other wings, but even though you only need to be First Class and Pres Skills qualified, when a course is over subscribed, they select by Master Cadet, Senior cadet etc. downwards, so unless the course is heavily undersubscribed, it is unlikely that a First Class cadet will get on it (in my wing anyway).
That may have been to manage numbers/likelihood of passing
Qualified Aerospace Instructor Course’s? Not sure how that could teach a lesson 
. Now QAIs on the other hand…
Depends if they have their flying suit on or not…
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No self respecting QAI would ever be caught without a trusty flying suit 
You can’t teach aviation in a classroom without one
So a local Sqn has got an Xbox with MS flight sim. It looks really good as it also allows winch launch gliders as well flying in the tutor.
However they have been told that this is not suitable for blue ATP as it’s “not an approved package & can’t show the outside & inside of the aircraft simultaneously”
We’re wanting to get a sim for our Sqn but not sure on route at the mo. Can any one confirm if this is the case as the Xbox route costs around £660 while the full PC route is around £3k
We bought PCs last year that run MS Flight Sim very well, with a large screen and joystick. They were £1400 each. Happy to send you the spec if that would help?
We saved a lot of money by buying licences online rather than from the PC builder or retail.
That would be great Thankyou although £1400 is still double the cost of the Xbox & attachments.
I was also drawn to the idea that online play could be done on the Xbox live servers between Sqns without taxing the unit internet too hard.
It could lead to all sorts of opportunities such as a wing aerobatic display from its Sqns just on the sim & other joint working.
The cadets would get the experience but It’s just that we couldn’t use it for blue atp at this time.
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Who said that - you should ask for the policy and challenge as appropriate.
Outside & inside of aircraft makes no sense to me, you can’t look at both during a sim sortie. The only reason I can think of to do so is to demo the controls (but that is in the Blue PowerPoint anyway) or to show others in the room when a cadet or instructor is ‘flying’. Useful but surely not a must have.
I can’t find it now, but the guidance I’ve seen for how to deliver that lesson definitely says you should have both an internal and external view, but I didn’t think this was simultaneous.
The argument is that you have to be able to see the effects of control. So it is a thing.
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I’m not sure there is actual policy documents about what the Synthetic Training covers of the requirements, but there is this “How To” that isn’t found in the HQ Key Documents library. . .
How To Guide: Synthetic ATC FAM-1
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That’s the one I meant, and the one we use as a guide (and been assessed against).
Thank you - I will ask the question upwards.
If it doesn’t have to be simultaneously then I don’t see why we can’t use the Xbox in which case happy days.
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It is the simultaneous I have an issue with. Yes it can be done but you’re looking at multiple screen, dual graphics card set ups. It might be something that the very high end systems that use multiple PCs can do, but I can’t set it up on my multi screen system at home!
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There’s no requirement for simultaneous viewing in the “How To Guide” linked above.
The ‘inside and outside’ views is an ideal for step 2 of the training, as it shows the relationship of the control column and control surfaces.
However…you can only do this if you are running FSX or P3D. It isn’t possible on X-Plane or MS2020.
If you can show both views, do it. And if you can’t show it, don’t worry.
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