BELA for road marching


#1

North region RATTO is insisting that team leaders for wing road marching teams must have completed BELA are any other regions facing this problem


#2

Got to keep the numbers down some how!! Where does it stipulate BEL?

If true, that’ll mess up our Wing :kissing:


#3

Dosnt stipulate anywhere just new ruling from RATTO and yep it will destroy RM


#4

Not had that problem - in fact, they were clear that BEL wasn’t appropriate or required.
Perhaps the new in-house FTTL course will become a prerequisite as things do forward but for now it may be an idea to loop-in the NMROA


#5

Sorry for sounding daft., whats is NMROA. I have just been dropped into team leader and wing RM manager.


#6

NMRO is the Nijmegen Marches Registrations Officer - a regular who looks after all BMC registrations, except…

The NMRA (just noticed the renaming) is the Nijmegen Marches Registrations Assistant, a recent addition that coordinates cadet participants (RAFAC at least - not 100% on the others). He is RAFAC officer and can be reached at roadmarching@aircadets.org

I’d recommend splitting the roles of Team Manager and Team Leader, if you have a buddy who can assist :slight_smile:

If you’ve just been dropped into the role, are you a member of the “BMC Nijmegen Marches 2017” facebook group for team leaders and assistants?


#7

And he doesn’t bite (much) :rofl: No, he is a good guy; any questions or concerns, drop hi a line and he will respond quickly.


#8

thanks for all your support. If I could have evidence that all all regions except North are allowing FTTL to supervise Nijmegen it would add fuel


#9

Actually, not even that. In all the research I did a few years ago, there was no actual need for FTTL on a training walk and BEL was not considered to be an appropriate qualification either. I doubt there was a consensus between wings or regions.


#10

Road Marching doesn’t need a BEL as it doesn’t fall under the definition of ‘trekking’ in the ACATI. In order to be trekking you have to be a certain distance or walking time away from a road, which of course, by road marching, you probably aren’t…
Just suggest that the FTTL course covers it and get on it ASAP. I’ve led teams to Nij for years and don’t have a BELA.


#11

Bring it up with your regional commandant. He has released a letter telling you to challenge spurious and unnecessary admin.


#12

My WATTO tried insisting on it once. After educating him in the error of his ways he saw sense.

It’s road marching not an expedition so BELA is completely unsuitable even if the ACTO said you need a qualification (which it doesn’t!)


#13

If you have to have a BEL to cover placing one foot in front of another on a road and we are responsible for our cadets when they arrive and depart from the Sqn, will all staff have to be BEL qualified?
The point of a BEL for trekking is that there is an element of remoteness and you will be training by away from roads. Explain to your RATTO that Road Marching is Cadets marching on a road!! Just like marching to a Remembrance Parade, but for longer and ultimately in the land of chips and mayonnaise!!


#14

Don’t forget the curry ketchup!


#15

And don’t forget the Applebollen and Thee.


#16

FTTL is the way ahead. Surely the RATTO is shooting themselves in the foot; a Road Marching Team is over the ratios, so he/she should know that. Having a single person with BEL breaks the quals ratio!!


#17

I find the whole BEL/Lowland Leader/Road Marching/Walking situation to be utterly bonkers.

I can lead a team around Nijmegen. I can take cadets on roach marching training walks.

But I can’t take them out on the public footpaths around the village without completing 16 hours contact training, 16 hours contact assessment, and 100 hours of “quality days” walking experience to prove that I understand how to navigate and how to keep a team safe and motivated. :confused:


#18

Considering that we are now allowed to break the ratios for DofE the water is even murkier!


#19

Madness. I am glad we don’t have your rules!


#20

Unless you call it Field craft…