If they had any common sense they would realise that SC clearance includes CTC which in turn includes BPSS, therefore you already have BPSS!
The issue though is that the original BPSS, on which the SC is based, essentially never happened (as it’s been decided that the people who conducted it were not qualified to do so).
TBH we’re quite lucky that they didn’t knock over the entire house of cards, which was a definite possibility.
Interesting background.
Doesn’t make it any more comfortable me having to ask my step-father for his place of birth again though.
So presumably this affects all regular RAF and Civil Servants, as we would have followed the same procedures as them?
Would we really?
MOD procedures for security clearance, you’d imagine so.
Want that the problem though? RAFAC were not following the correct procedures.
in the same way we started with CTC and then someone realised, whoops! those CFAVs need higher than that and we all then completed SC
Not quite the same scenario, the JSP was changed to remove CTC as an acceptable standard for arms and ammo stuff.
Not as far as I know, as their BPSS would have been carried out by personnel qualified to do so.
What makes someone ‘qualified’ to check a few pieces of identification?
And if someone has an SC, why does anyone care about BPSS anymore?
As far as I know, there are certain requirements which we as volunteers don’t meet.
Which is mostly being SC cleared to check the BPSS. Maybe ask if you can check your own?
Interestingly that’s not the case in v6.01 (Sept 2017) which I believe is the newest version.
That gives CTC as acceptable for access to Weapons, Ammunition and explosives.
As I understand it this issue is:
SC checks the details of the person and assumes that the person’s identity has been confirmed.
BPSS is supposed to confirm the identity before the SC checks are carried out.
The SC is worthless if the person on which it has been carried out is not actually the person we’ve got.
There is apparently now some issue that the method we have been using to confirm identity does not satisfy the requirements for SC.
So, whilst unlikely, it may theoretically be possible that Mr John Smith with a clear SC check is actually convicted fraudster Mr Joe Bloggs who presented himself in the beginning with a stolen identity and fake ID.
…and obviously the MOD processes don’t deal in probabilities they just say “BPSS is the required standard - you haven’t been doing that in the past so now everyone needs to complete it retrospectively”.
And so therein lies my point… SC via an employer (not the MOD) therefore the employer has done the identity verification step, not the RAFAC. So I still fail to see why I need to do it again…
Ahh… Apologies, skim reading, I missed the bit stating that you have one via work.
In that case, god knows!? Sounds like BS to me.
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Only where operationally required and while they undertake SC Vetting according to JSP 440 Leaflet 5 Para 11.
very true, yet Leaflet 7 suggests only CTC is required. para 28 & 30
Got to love a bit of clarity. 