Banner Regulations

Everyone Uniform and Drill
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Evening All.

Would one of you kind chaps be able to point me in the direction of the Banner Regulations?

TIA

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Do you mean banner drill, or the regulations for how a banner must be produced?

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If it’s what a banner should Look like, it will probably be in the first few pages of the banner drill section of AP818

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It’s not.

However…

RULES FOR REGION, WING & SQN BANNERS

Design

    1. Existing Banners may continue to be used until they wear out, but all new or replacement Banners are to:

    • a. Be of RAF blue heavy silk or artificial silk.

    • b. Be not larger than 2’6" on the pike and 3’6" in breadth.

    • c. Bear the ATC badge for Region, Wing & Sqn banners placed in a central position with any local authority badge, RAFA badge or device, in a corner position. No other badge or device is to be included in the design. The Region, Wing or Squadron name may be included in the design below the ATC badge.

    • d. Be carried on a pike not exceeding 7’ in length.

Banner belt

  • a. The standard belts are available in Brown leather or White plastic in various sizes and set at either left or right shoulder. The preferred pattern is over the left shoulder. There is an option for Regions and Wings to purchase a custom made embroidered belt that can be designed with the region or wing badge. These are available at www.themarchingbandshop.co.uk but are a high cost item.
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puppet-awkward

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So has that ever been sent out to squadrons and Wings!! I’ve never seen it.

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I thought the standard requirements for all banners in the regs was Tassles!

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Incredibly common misconception.

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Sorry as in regulations not regulars. If the official line says we have tassles the we have tassles :man_shrugging:t2:

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I had tassels once - Battery pool party in Cyprus. I went as Tallulah, and I sang all the hits….

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Unless I’ve missed a contradiction, they do not say tassels are used. Companies just sell them to units.

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But has anyhting ever come down the chain saying stop buying them and where possible to remove them? I don’t think so - and there lies the problem, if it is actually one.

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I have raised this point and I’m pushing for it to be discussed and promulgated, because it needs addressing to prevent units purchasing the wrong thing.

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But if no one tells us it’s wrong then we don’t have to fix it :eyes:

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Chapter and verse of regs forbidding tassles on banners?

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No cords. Good enough?

This is from the 2020 badging policy, though. Which arguably is not a real policy.

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well there are two parts to addressing that.

  1. In the badges policy it provides the chapter and verse (created by the RAF Ceremonial Office) that tassels and cords are not to be used (explicit).

  2. If you were arguing in favour of them, you would need to find evidence explicitly permitting them, rather than relying on an absence of prohibition.

I leave the door open to the latter existing, but I haven’t found it at this time.

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Are they allowed for the Corps Banner? As the policy around that certainly allows them in there.

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I don’t think I’ve ever seen an ATC banner without them, so I guess what I’m saying is, if no one seems bothered, why not just leave it alone.

Edit to add something constructive: if you’re going to spend time and effort on it, why not focus on getting the policy changed to allow tassels, that way it becomes a positive thing, rather than telling people they’ve done something wrong that’s never been enforced and having to fix it.

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Yeah, I could live a thousand lifetimes an a grey room with no windows and I couldn’t sum up thirty seconds of interest in tassles on flags….

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