An officers No.1’s thread

Turner virr

They did my number 5’s a good many years ago.

Got a stonking discount for some ‘consultancy’ I did for them.

Always good quality with them.

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Very reasonable price!

I figured if I was going to spend £150 on a set from Ebay that might not fit, can’t get adjusted, unknown condition etc, for £350 may as well go for broke and get a new set!

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Blimey. Those are the very first two good responses I’ve heard for Turner Virr.
Usually the uniform - even private purchase made to measure uniform - comes out several inches too big. Perhaps they’ve changed their cutter in recent years.

I ended up getting a 96cm waist trouser (37.5’) that fit nicely, the suit trousers I slipped easily into this morning are a 32’…

The jacket I’m wearing now is a 40’ chest - I had to go with 108cm (42.5’) for a good fit on the uniform…

This is the same same as my uniform from stores - the measurements have no bearing on real life.

The trousers have a little room for later year expansion I must admit… But they are comfortable and it’s nothing a pair of braces can’t fix whilst I enjoy my current physique.

From what I understand turner virr actually lost the contract to supply uniform to the RAF about a year ago.

They have a huge stock pile of pre made stuff they tweak/send out nearest size hence the quick turn around

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I’d be pretty certain that’s how they’ve been supplying the RAF contract. Take measurements… find nearest stock size… Make some adjustments (maybe).

Always be wary about comparing tailored clothing with off the peg sizes. Retail sizing is generally ‘optimistic’. The label gives the size that people like to believe they are :wink:

For example, I wear a 34" waist in jeans and most off-the-peg trousers but my actual waist measurement is nearer 36½". I wear 92cm uniform trousers (92cm is 36.2"). It’s a much closer comparison to the actual measurement.
The garments will come with a certain amount of ease. i.e. they will be made slightly bigger than the measurement they’re intended to fit.

What are you saying… :joy: :joy: :joy:

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Merely that I haven’t actually had a waist which measures 34" for some years :smiley:

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You also wear jeans very differently to the much more formal and old fashioned style of number 1 trousers, so they shouldn’t be compared.

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That depends on how one wears one’s jeans… :wink:
I like mine to sit at my waist… Like where jeans is meant to sit innit.

Though, following your point it is worth mentioning that the current No 2 trousers are notably lower in rise. They do not sit at the correct waist level as No 1 trousers should/would.

The No 1 trousers are actually a fairly modern cut and would (other than the sizing mentioned above) be closely comparable to most modern ‘formal’ trousers.

No 5 trousers are a great example of traditional design with their close fit, high waist, high back. Mess dress really hasn’t changed since the early 1800s.

Turner Virr good quality?

You are having a Giraffe, they are utter rip off merchants! They took over 6 months to Try to get my No1s to fit - even then I had to result to using the local Parent Unit Stn Tailor (who achieved it in no time squared).

In no way, shape, or form, are they anywhere near the quality of my original No1s (for which, as a Regular, I received a grant, and which I bought from a well known Military Tailor).

Didn’t they get caught a few years ago not keeping to the contract, as in not providing what was being paid for to the required standard etc?

Something like that

They screwed my issued set of No.1s up too. Never ever got sorted. Local station tailor said they were beyond fixing and it ended up with them saying they would only deal with it if I took them back to Cranwell and got re-measured - a 10-hour round trip for me. Whenever they are “required” I just point out that nobody has actually successfully issued any to me (on the advice of the local station I did not sign for them) and if Wing wants to sort that out, they are more than welcome to, as I have no time to do it.

In some ways, a removal of the No.1 issue will help me here. Remember there are some of us that can’t afford to spend out on this kind of stuff. I just about scraped enough together for my No.3s over time.

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Quite simply no3s should be issued.

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Interestingly, according to their regulations, that’s still the way that the SCC operates. Their Officers and WOs are given an allowance up to a maximum to buy their own. They also have provision for an allowance to replace them every 5 years if necessary.

I never cease to be amazed by how much more the SCC manage to pay for with far less financial assistance from the RN than we get from the RAF. All their cadets gets No 1 too. Those Royal Marines dress blue uniforms are expensive, but each cadet is scaled for a new set every year I’m told!

If only our Council and Committees could take a lesson from the charitable collections of the MSSC.

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Not sure if it’s true they are scaled for replacements.

The CCFRN (used to?) do the same with no. 1s, but there were several cases of officers taking the grant and never actually buying them.

These are the current regulations.
They’ve obviously taken steps to avoid the issue of taking money and not buying uniform. It’s paid against receipts only now. Bit of a no-brainer really.

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Though, if you were referring to the scaling of replacements for cadets then I’m going only by what I was told by one of their instructors.
I would imagine that they are a pool item where serviceable kit is reissued as cadets outgrow it.