'Adventurous' activities and benefits of risk

I was suggested an article this morning about ‘Why kids need to take more risks’ and found it a really interesting read and very relevant for us and our organisation. It’s about the appropriateness and benefits of enabling ‘risky play’ for children, which includes better skills in risk management, problem solving and social situations, as well as increased resilience, self-confidence and reduced anxiety.

Importantly, risk doesn’t mean danger, and many activities that adults wouldn’t perceive as risky can present appropriate risk to children for their development. Certainly leadership tasks, a nav ex or fieldcraft exercise, perhaps even using a knife in aircraft modelling, could offer these some manageable risks in RAFAC.

I’m sure we’ve all seen these benefits in cadets taking part in activities and it’s fascinating to see that there is research showing that minimising risk can have negative consequences, for example ‘adolescents who had fewer opportunities for positive types of thrill-seeking — such as mountain climbing — were more likely to take negative risks, such as shoplifting.’

The ‘adventurous’ in the post title is because the article reports that, in the UK, the researcher ‘has found the word ‘risky’ too off-putting for parents, so she uses ‘adventurous’ instead’. I recognise that! My favourite quote from the article is ‘If risky-play advocates have a rallying cry, it is probably this: “Children should be as safe as necessary, not as safe as possible.”’

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Ahhh!! One of my pet topics!! :slight_smile:

If you’re really keen to explore this further, I’d highly recommend reading Tim Gill’s book “No Fear; growing up in a risk adverse society” (from 2007!!!) - which is now available FREE OF CHARGE here; https://rethinkingchildhood.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/no-fear-19-12-07.pdf

Whilst it’s focus is on 5-11 year olds, it does help explain why we’ve got a cohort of kids coming through who themselves are more risk averse and less adventurous than previous generations! Alongside some of the side affects of the bubble wrap - the significant reduction in resilience.

It also contains some useful information linking the uptake of broken bones relating to things like “bouncy” surfaces in playgrounds to “reduce the risk of injury” - which in turn has meant children develop with an unnatural perception of what distances are “safe” to jump from particularly when the floor isn’t “springy”.

I’d also recommend Richard Louv’s “Last Child in the Woods” - linking adventurous activities and being outdoors to structure development, social development and an uptick in overall wellbeing - Last Child in the Woods: Saving our Children from Nature-Deficit Disorder: Amazon.co.uk: Louv, Richard: 9781848870833: Books

This is absolute a quote to live by!

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This is what ALARP should be, except a lot of the time we seem to go into ‘As Low As Physically Possible’ rather then ‘Reasonably Possible’.

Not being allowed to use BGA sites is a good example of this, imo.

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What a brilliant discussion.

I’ve often wondered whether the avoidance of “risky” activities has led to a reduced ability to asses / judge / appreciate / measure risk - and interpret that against benefit for the individual….

Bit of a word salad - but does the removal of activities where kids / young people and even adults MIGHT get hurt and experience pain or worse, mean that as a society people are MORE foolhardy / less risk sensitive… anti social behaviour such as bad driving / speed / crime & disorder etc…,

Or, the removal of the elation when conquering something risky, means we’re going soft…

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There is a research paper (i’ll have to dig it out when I get home!) which linked neurodivergence and prevalence of risk taking behaviours. It basically suggested that the decreasing levels of “routine” risk based activities during childhood/adolescence led to some people seeking/sourcing their own risk based activities - often illegitimate - to gain the same endorphin outcomes.

Where we as an organisation excel* (specifically within the AT context) is through the management of the risk based approach - we still expose YP to risk; but we control sufficient factors to make the risk tolerable - still offering the endorphin hit, still having YP operating well outside their comfort zone and peak adventure (rather than the misadventure zone where harm can occur) - but within our own personal comfort zone as instructors.

*said without tongue in cheek as I do genuinely believe we can - and do - excel in this area despite the burdensome paperwork etc.

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If you can get a copy of ‘Safety Risk and Adventure in the outdoor activities’ by Bob Barton it makes some very interesting points.

COVID has yet more to answer for here. When a whole generation of kids had their entire lives disrupted for almost 3 years despite being at very low risk then there are going to be side effects.
I really like the description in JSP419 (AT bible) about controlled exposure to risk improving operational effectiveness. It’s a bit like a vaccination really!

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I’m glad I’m not the only person who thought this was sensible. I’d suggest that we should be looking to introduce perceived ‘risk’ where this is appropriate.

For example, on a camp or activity, get the cadets to move as a group to the next activity without direct staff supervision. With the risk of getting ‘lost’, being late or having to interact with regular personnel, many cadets would find this ‘risky’. Actual increased risk, above being directly supervised, virtually zero.

Any other opportunities?

The issue that many will see with the above is how it sits with the Scouts incident on the Great Orm. While the RAFAC have much more robust systems in place E.G. approving activates through SMS, ratios and NGB qualifications. There does seem to be a blame culture when things go wrong.
I agree with all of the above, wrap kits in cotton wool and they will look for danger is the wrong word but a thrill or excitement is a better fit, in other places.

Taking young people outside of their comfort zone has always built better cadets. I started doing this through trekking and then through road marching. The pride and sense of achievement they get from doing something that is properly hard is wonderful to see. Tell a cadet they are going to go to an event, sleep in a gym with hundreds of other cadets, get up zero five hundred, march for 42km until mid afternoon and do it all again except on the Sunday everything starts half an hour earlier and you are going to enjoy it. they will look at you as if you have three heads. But they do and many come back year after year.

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Volunteers at the coal face have found the word ‘risky’ too off-putting for HQAC!

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I see this with some of my current group of volunteers. It’s taken nearly a week for me to get one of them to try any food other than Lomo Saltado, because they thought there was a risk that they wouldn’t like the other stuff.

We’ve somehow gone from people who accept that things go wrong but we can learn lessons and improve ourselves as a result, to people who have to avoid things going wrong.

And I find it fascinating that young people who are willing to accept the risks of flying halfway around the world to a different culture with a different language and a very high violent crime rate still seem to be operating day-to-day with a high degree of risk aversion.

Edit: Huh, as if perfectly timed - the local news this morning:

The balance needed is perceived risk by cadets but limited actual risk. Fortunately, we have lots of activities like that (when properly planned and conducted). The Great Orm death wasn’t planned or conducted as we would expect in RAFAC.

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My unresearched, personal view only, but I’d suggest that there’s a divergence between subsets of people and a more psychological root. Some are kept too safe so never venture out, others rebel against safety in search of the rush, knowing the risk. Then there’s a paradoxical crossover in the middle of those of people who cannot judge risk adequately so end up taking the extreme risk route on occasion without realising.

Take hiking as an example - our most experienced cadets will be judging the ground ahead to assess whether they can get through it. Those without experience will either not cross terrain they could because they’re averse, or cross terrain they shouldn’t because they don’t know better (the crossover group). Others will actively seek out unsuitable routes for the challenge and risk (though some will do so adequately prepared and experienced for the increased challenge, the focus is those making the decision without that).

It’s not just about risk aversion or risk seeking, but risk assesment, hazard perception, and skill building.

How many of us could hop across a rock formation or through a rocky stream, picking (mostly) the right rocks to safely step on and quickly judging the route? How many of us have done so and then turned around to see a companion bricking themselves from nerves and with no idea where to step? If anyone here falls into the companion category, how many times were you shown - never or barely any?

We can take it right back to toddler time and real basic risks - my mum didn’t just say “don’t touch, hot” and I knew what that meant and didn’t touch it. Without causing harm she demonstrated what hot felt like so I had the context to respond appropriately. Through observation, I learned how she checked if something was cool enough to pick up (tap, touch, grab, hold, pick up).

… Likewise, it’s very difficult without experience (usually also having been shown) to calculate the right route and rocks to cross the stream. Many would simply choose not to try without assistance (overestimating risk), and others will injure themselves rushing a bad judgement (underestimating risk). “This is a good rock, this is a bad rock, this is how to judge before putting your full weight down”.

Long way to say that not subjecting children and young people to controlled or directed risk* both deprives them of future experience and causes them to create potentially harmful situations for themselves either accidentally or deliberately. Important to note that it’s not too late for adults either to try new things that gradually get riskier, or be taken right out of comfort by someone elseexperienced enough.

THEN there’s the element of escalation, reducing controls and/or direction to test judgement and skills (progression of a gymnast - foam pit, floor, higher bar or more complex move. Builds both the required skill and also the judgement to not only perform the movement, but also recognise when it’s going wrong and when and how to bail safely instead of trying to complete a failing move and landing on their head…in theory)

*“Controlled” meaning there are mitigations in place that reduce the severity of the hazard (fall but it hurts less), “directed” meaning following instructions and guidance reduces the likelihood (it will still hurt the same, but the following guidance stops you falling - you can’t control the stream, but can show and tell someone how to avoid falling into it).

I’ve just googled it - looks delicious!