worse than the fallic falcon?
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Haha more than anything else I remember the meme pages about itâŚ
They donât have quite the same effect now Iâm a CFAV and find the daft nonsense that keeps happening to be memeâd about just sad rather than amusing
Itâs a clever idea and would work really well if our wings were numbered instead of named. You could then standardise that second colour for each numbered wing.
Hereâs a very rough idea of something Iâd been cooking up as an alternative proposal to using the full badges (because thereâs no halfway house, but it felt a shame not to milk them for all we could).
The idea was essentially to crudely pixelate the heraldic badge centrepiece, so if you knew what they looked like, you could guess the formation patch.
Some look better than others and this is only a very rough creation on my phone because I saw this was being discussed.
You could standardise the partitions as a 3x3 grid or leave it more free. Sometimes it works well. Other times less so.
Two of these are the authorised region badges. One of these is an unauthorised badge I hope to basically preserve. Test the theory and see if you can tell (you donât have to like them 
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I can immediately see the bottom one is C&E and Iâm guessing the top one is SNI, because of the purple (from the thistle?)
As for the middle one? I know W&W is the only other authorised badge: but thatâs cheating.
I think middle is Durham & Northumberland wing.
Canât see the C& E link though.
Central and East Region is tough because the right side has blue and white waves and you donât want them too noisey.
The rough idea there was background split between the green and blue/white halves of the roundel, then a strip of black for the Viking helmet flanked by two strips of gold for the golden wings protruding from the helmet.
Itâs a real shame using the centrepiece in a circular red border wasnât permissible.
The central & east one looks more Scottish but i do like the idea of diagonal stripes/bands which definitely distinguishes ours from regulars.
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I think the yellow saltire is St Alban rather than St Andrew, but St Albans would be in SWR wouldnât it?
Hertfordshire so either C&E or Laser
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I quite like the look of it.
Youâd potentially then have the background colour as the region, and the cross as the wing.
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Itâs the mercia flag 
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With how rafac is I donât ever think we would have wing patches for multiple reasons.
No1. It would be far to expensive
No2. Rafac is moving away from wings and going more region based
No3. It would be a pain to send out to each wing and it would also mean more money on design cost
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Region patches would make more sense financially but itâs rafac so you never know
Ah that makes sense.
Historicaly always classed Mercia as wales & west rather than east. 
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So I think my numbers confused it - it was more for a grid reference in a reference table to enable quick recognition.
Iâve done a final tweaked grid. Region numbers are those that match the SATT numbers. Tried to link colour to current region logo but again more to demonstrate rather than specific.
I really like the cross idea as I think it looks good & I only picked the triangles for simplicity. However the big advantage of the triangles is that you have less unique badges (as you can use some upside down) which makes it cheaper.
Suppose you could just order the triangles & ask everyone to composite but not sure how that would look in reality.
I suppose the only issue is that theyâre so similar in form that youâd need a crib to understand it.
The ACF have a red square patch (worn at an angle, with the points at 12, 3, 6, and 9 oâclock) with the ACF badge in it.
Despite being smaller than my proposals, theyâre still clear and itâs obvious what they are.
The CCF also have the purple one with their badge. Again, nice and clear what it is.
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I think in reality you would learn your region colour & your wing colour and then maybe the colours of the regions.
The wing order is alphabetical so if you need to on the fly you could work it out but in general you would only be using the badges to group your region & your wing.
Re the CCF & ACF badges they are the equivalent of the RAFAC badge we wear on the right.
Purple is for adults & in theory the cadets wear the CCF logo with service colour background (so red, dark blue, light blue) but RN donât really wear MTP & RAF are made to conform with the ATC.
I see that you discovered a flaw with using a wing colour the same as the region colour.
At least Thames Valley can make use of any leftover JL DZ.
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Talking of which, would these just fall by the wayside in this proposition?
Also would it be proposed for CCFs to use the flashes too?