So the good cadets with a chance of still getting on the big ticket camps will stay as cadets, but the rubbish ones will be put in charge. If ever there was an argument to convince me the CFAV Corporal or Aviator ranks were sensible then this would be it.
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Whilst the sergeants mess is quite civilised, would the JRs mess be a little challenging in view they would not have through Phase 1 training.
Is this a thing?
This is nothing short of moronic and can only have been thought up by someone who has no chuffing clue how the org works.
Glad Iām out.
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Yes, although isnāt advertised well, apparently there is a Sqn OCās Advisory Board too.
If so imho that will be rushed through.
Why does this organisation like a tight deadline (impossible target)?
In recent times weāve had
ā¢ heat advice shared Friday evening before a heatwave weekend
ā¢ TRF details released with expectations change over will occur in a fortnightā¦a month on and our Sqn are still to even receive the new ones let alone transfer over
ā¢ reports that Heat injury training needs completing with less than a weeks notice
(Just three examples which quickly come to mind)
And now this the biggest shake up at the upper age limit in 15 years with a month to go with no official announcement or explanation
Why?
(Yet the things that really do matter, soace syllabus, rewrites of ACTOs take 12+ months after an announcement itās coming)
Respectfully they can be given the choice by as an OC its my decision.
An OC is no more obliged ir obligatied to accept every application by any Joe Bloggs to be a CFAV as they are to approve extending Cadet service past 18th birthday.
If Iām not going to approve them as an O18 Cadet Iām no more likely to accept them as staffā¦
Iām not convinced any RAFAC rules apply in this case.
Your attendance is as a private citizen wuthin a public space not as Flt Lt Bloggs as part of an official SMS recognised RAFAC event .
Your attendance is not a RAFAC event thus RAFAC rules do not apply. If your staff team meet in the pub and ten minutes later two of your Staff cadets walk in of their own accord are you expected to stop drinking because two 18+ civilians walked in you happen to know from a role youāre no longer conducting?
To put it another way, if you attend a friendās wedding who has also invited friends who are Cadets should you stop drinking?
Absolutely notā¦it is not a RAFAC event so why apply RAFAC policy?
This is not a new issue. The same āchallengeā is faced when one half of an U18 couple becomes an O18 Staff cadet or when an O18 becomes Staff now under the current format.
It isnāt a common occurrence but can be and is easily managed.
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Yep.
Letās go back to pre-LaSER review with the good Cadets staying as CWOās until they are 22 and the rubbish ones becoming Ciās and Officers at 20.
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Itās investigated as safeguarding, speaking from experience after 2 staff membersā own children who also happen to be cadets started joining us.
Fair point. Though I think we just need to pick a line between staff and cadet and make it a hard one with no blurring the lines between staff and cadets.
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Abs given all other legal aspects, 18 seems like a good line to have!
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That, or August 31 in the school year they turn 18, to tie in with schools and membership of clubs there. But I appreciate outside of a school setting that makes things a little more tricky from a safeguarding perspective, not impossible though
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We already have a joining age linked to school years, so why not?
Seems like a reasonable suggestion. Would be easy to argue for the DBS peer exemption too.
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I agree 100% we seem to as an organisation be working really hard to have the worst of both worlds.
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Would love to have been a fly on the wall for this thought process.
āHow can we make things as complicated as possible, and therefore most likely to throw up issues we havenāt managed to consider?ā
āEasy, take that issue weāve identified as something that needs fixing and then throw in bonus options, while leaving the existing scenario in placeā
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Sounds like overreach by an organisation that has no jurisdiction outside āofficeā hours.
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I think the CFAV in question was saved by the fact that the IO (a WSO) had joined in with a couple of the nightsā¦
Which goes a long way to explain why so many elements of RAFAC donāt believe in producing Process Maps; it would highlight their own stupidity.
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Iāve heard from a friend that the entry process for potential CFAVs is equally convoluted and disjointed.
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You wish it was just convoluted and disjointed.
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