These are great and we used to get them quite often via clarity for AEF. 2 X Sqn allocations of 4 cadets each plus 1 X driver - sorted! No D1 required
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ACLI 308 has been completely re-written. Might be useful for those with an SOV if you’re still managing to afford it!
From a quick flip through looks like we’ve removed all our own requirements and are now satisfied to just follow DVSA guidance.
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No more 6 weekly inspections?
No more 6 weekly Inspections, it’s now the DVSA guidelines for inspection intervals
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Hiya,
Wasnt the rule for vehicle 12 years or older 6 weeks, and anything younger , 12 weeks?
Whats changed, i might be confused 
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Just interested in peoples opinion on this.
Our SOV is regularly “donated” to Sqn Camps, to be used to ferry cadets from one place to another. At these camps there might be 50 different people that might use the minibus.
How would an OC of the Sqn the minibus belongs to AND the Civcom, that prolly wont have a representation at the camp, be able to make sure that however drives it is capable or legally allowed to?
Seems harsh for them to take responsibility for something they have no control over, and will almost certainly lead to sqns not wanting to donate their minibuses to multi sqn events?
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As far as I remember, despite the DVSA guidelines being as shown above, HQAC Policy said 6 weeks regardless of age.
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You have a vehicle log book that lists individual authorised drivers and a log where the driver for each journey is recorded.
Doesn’t stop people from being dishonest about it but it’s a way of providing assurance.
As well as above with having a log that lists authorized drivers, you need to be careful ‘loaning out’ your SOV, especially under permit 19 rules. I was under the impression that if it was being used for a Wing activity in the way you describe, then the Wing CWC would need their own permit 19 with their own authorized driver list etc.
The simple answer is you can’t, there fore you shouldn’t. At least not under your permit.
I may be completely wrong there, and happy to be corrected though.
- The Civilian Committee, with assurance provided through the OC Sqn, are responsible for recording all driver competence checks and driver training as well as licence details. They are to ensure that only qualified, responsible, and competent individuals drive the SOVs.
it would certainly make me think twice about lending mine, if i couldnt be sure who was driving my minibus, especially if me or my civcom would end up being responsible if someone weren’t “competent”, whatever “competent” means.
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we do for our own Sqn staff, but no necessarily for staff from other Sqns that might use it on a camp or event etc
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Does the Wing CWC have their own Permit 19 for your minibus that you’re lending out?
yes, we learnt a while ago, that the permit 19 has to reflect the local organisation that might be using it. Normally that would be our own Sqn, so thats fine, but when its used for a Wing event, we had to get a Permit 19 , for each vehicle, detailing all the possible Sqns that might use it
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In theory then, if the bus is being driven on the Wings permit, not yours, then it should be them keeping a log of who is competent and qualified. 1 bus but two seperate permit holders and two seperate lists of people who are allowed to drive it?
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Wonder if this update is going to promulgated to squadrons!!
BTW do Wing have someone specifically looking at MT 
This is a worry, will be plenty of ocs and cwc that are maybe un aware of their updated responsibilities 
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I expect it’s one of these things that varies, but ours does.
These aren’t increases in responsibility but actually moving an IBN (from ~2020) into actual policy with some sensible adjustments.
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Has the 6-weekly inspection requirement actually gone away?
It was only ever for vehicles over 12 years old and that requirement is still there in the list you posted (para e)
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