NCO/Officer split

[JustCallMeFlight]

Well, officer does have the word office in it.

[JoeBloggs]

The farmer tends the farm, a driver does the driving, so an officer surely stays in the office!

[Chief_Tech]

In the air force the officers lead from the front & go in to combat whilst the enlisted stay behind

[WestlandScout]

And to be fair plenty of pilots (and Navs when we had them) refer to the cockpit/flight deck as ‘the office’

[Paracetamol]

@Rusty

ACP 19(?) lays out Max allowed Uniformed staff per Sqn,

No.
It itemises how many can be on a unit and claim home to duty pay.

Theoretically a sqn can have as many staff as it likes.

[OC.1324]

@Jimothy

I don’t think should make the amount of admin duties a differentiating factor between SNCO and Officer. Other than being an arbitrary distinction, you’re also likely to put people off going for commission if it’s sold as more of an admin role.

Yeh, I mean I do my current role because it was necessary (although I didn’t have a choice of route, because I was already commissioned).

I dearly miss the intense cadet engagement and career / development chats I started my time delivering with experienced cadets. It’s no wonder “do admin” doesn’t appeal, especially when you frame that in terms of an entire application pathway you can’t revert from.

The commissioned / non-commission barrier needs to be one you can walk through whenever you want.

Allow someone to commission to run a unit and then become a sgt if they want to give that up and go back to training.

[Chief_Tech]

@OC.1324

Allow someone to commission to run a unit and then become a sgt if they want to give that up and go back to training.

But why can’t officers do the training? There’s no need to revert & if you are CO appreciate it’s hard but you should be teaching at least one specialist subject so your cadets gets to see you & get that leadership.

As a bit of a generalisation the cadets psychology is that of those at school so as CO or an officer you are seen similar to a head of year, housemaster or head of department so they expect to see you out on the ground leading from the front.

I am very rarely in my office as CO normally for meetings & phonecalls. But my two hours a night normally are out & about speaking teaching training.

[DontCallMeSir]

@themajor

Our biggest challenge on this front is that the only differentiators I can think of for CI v Uniformed CFAV are:

• Volunteer Allowance
• Pressure to take on Command
• Drill Instructor
• M Qual

I just want to turn up, do my few hours and maybe cadet-sit for flying/gliding or weekend activities that need a adult from the Sqn. For me having to wear uniform isn’t my thing. I rejoined as an adult knowing uniform wasn’t a requirement, and I’d be less stressed than those who chose the uniform route. If uniform was a requirement, then it may have put me off.