Laying up a Sqn Banner

[DShack]

Goood Morning!
After negotiations with our Civ Comm we have finally managed to secure a new Sqn Banner. I do have the order of service for blessing the the Banner and bringing into use as it were. What I would like to do is lay the old Banner up in our local Chirch does anybody know if there is a order of service for laying up the old Banner? Any help would be fantastic!

[Lightening]

Laying Up Sqn Banner to rest (in a church)

We are soon to get a new Sqn Banner due to the wear and tear of our existing one. Both staff and CivCom want to do the right thing and lay the old banner up in the local church (padres own church), and then get the new one blessed… Does anyone have a service template or guide on how it’s meant to be done? Any suggestions for hymns/things to say?

[DShack]

Thanks for the pointer it does go off thread after a while… but some sound advice to start with

[incubus]

@DShack

Thanks for the pointer it does go off thread after a while…

You should probably get used to that

[Lightening]

Yeah that normally happens around here

[SierraTango]

That maybe, but the RAFAC rank slides from cadet direct look awful

[wdimagineer2b]

The regulations you want are in Annex C to Personnel Instruction No 108 (in ACP 20) or in Part VII of the “Standing Orders the Banner of the Air Cadet Organisation [sic] and Rules for local Banners”

https://sharepoint.bader.mod.uk/_layouts/15/WopiFrame.aspx?sourcedoc=/ACO%20Document%20Library/Activities/Drill%20and%20Ceremonial/Corps%20Banner%20of%20the%20RAFAC/Standing%20Orders/20161905-The%20Corps%20Banner%20for%20ACO%20Standing%20orders-u.docx&action=default

Summarised here:

RELIGIOUS SERVICES

3. Squadron and/or wing chaplains are to be consulted with regard to any religious services involving Wing or Squadron Banners and in turn, they are to consult their Regional Chaplain whenever there is doubt about the correct procedure.

a. Wing or Squadron Banners are not to be consecrated but they may be dedicated in a simple service approved by the Regional Chaplain.

b. With the consent of the minister in charge, Wing or Squadron Banners may be lodged in church or chapel when no longer in use by the Wing or Squadron to which they belong. Formally laying up ceremonies are not permitted but the handing over to or lodging with a church or chapel may be accompanied by a simple service approved by the Regional Chaplain provided that the term “laying up” is not used.

c. Wing or Squadron Banners are not to be carried into any church or chapel without the consent of the minister in charge. When necessary the advice of the Regional Chaplain is to be sought.

Before purchasing your new Banner note also:

AUTHORITY TO OBTAIN WING OR SQUADRON BANNERS

8. Nothing in the design condition or parading of Wing or Squadron Banners is to reflect unfavourably on the name and dignity of the Corps. Therefore, new Banners are not to be obtained without prior authority of the Regional HQ (through Wg HQ in the case of a Squadron Banner) and applications are to include a description and drawing of the design. If the Banner is to be presented by a local authority or by local branch of the RAFA or other organisation, details are to be also included.

[barry]

From what i can remember from 2 sqn reg laying up of their second standerd
All the geust if they can stand up whilst the banner is paraded in then the padre or preist says we appect this standerd in to the house of god
you may have the bagpipes lead the party in

[Paracetamol]

I thought I recall reading somewhere specifically stating aircadet Sqn banners are not to be laid up…
Cant find it now. So might be wrong, but…

[wdimagineer2b]

You’re right.
It’s in my post from last year immediately above Barry’s.

[Paracetamol]

See… I knew I read it somewhere!

Thanks