[quote=“sirvicalsmeer” post=7071][quote=“tango_lima” post=7065][quote=“sirvicalsmeer” post=7064][quote=“tango_lima” post=7058](normally screws etc are painted red to signify: ‘Only an armourer may fiddle with this!’)
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Amaze me, give us an example of one of these red screws you speak of…[/quote]
There aren’t any on the rifle. Hence the surprise at someone saying you need an armourer to take bits of it apart.
But they’re definitely there on SUSAT and CWS. Not sure what happens if you unscrew them, because I’ve never felt the need to.[/quote]
There is no hidden meaning to a red screw. Whoever told you that was talking utter baulluex. Typical of an auggie.[/quote]
What hidden meaning?
Red = do not play with this
The instructor was a regular.
In fact all three of the instructors who have, during lessons, pointed to the red screws on bits of kit and said “These are red. Do not touch them. Only someone who knows what they’re doing, like an armourer can touch them.” were regulars.
The screws on our rifle sights are definitely not red. Also, I might not be an armourer, but I know what I am going when it comes to removing the foresight.
Also #2, why would we not be trusted to remove the foresight but be trusted to strip the bolt carrier?
Not that any of this matters as being in the ACF I never see any armourers. They get our weapons for the inspection or when they are broken, that’s it.
I say again so you can understand this TL, there is nothing written in any AESP, AP or Pam that says red screws can only be touched by an armourer. There is no hidden meaning.
I don’t think I claimed any of the above at any time.
I said I was told, by every instructor who has ever had cause to, that I was under no circumstances to touch any part painted red and that the only person who ever would touch those parts would be an armourer.
Have you had cause to look at many SUSATs while hanging bombs off aeroplanes?
Can’t help but think you’re not actually understanding what I’m saying.
I’m not ‘spouting’ anything. I pointed out that I have always been instructed that the only parts on a weapon system I wasn’t allowed to take off had red paint on the screws. That’s a fact. It wouldn’t be written down anywhere because it’s self explanatory.
I only mentioned it because someone was saying they were told only armourer’s could remove the foresight, which we both know is rubbish.
And I only mentioned that because I was querying the assertion that removing the foresight is part of stripping the weapon for cleaning. Which it isn’t. I’ve actually dragged out the booklet on ‘the Rifle’ from my IFPT and the photo of the rifle in bits shows foresight attached.
Do they teach you armourers to be such miserable, surly gits as part of your trade training?
Stripping, other than that taught by the instructor, is to be carried out only by a qualified armourer.
The Handguard.
The handguard should only be removed if the inside becomes extremely dirty or wet. It should not normally be removed for daily cleaning.
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It would appear that you are both right, yes there is no where that is says “red screws can only be touched by an armourer”, however if you are not taught to adjust them and in training the instructor tells you “see these red screws/springs/levers etc, don’t touch them, they’re for an armourer” then you shouldn’t adjust/play with them.
Bringing back to topic, would the policy note 4-11 replace 3-11?
If so the only weapon that can be used for rifle drill would be the L98A2. The remainder of 3-11 still applies (i.e. authority for parading) as it hasn’t been altered by any subsequent order.
And going back a little further to the whole issue (from the shooting side) of ATC SNCOs and the L98A2 - Is it legal for an ATC SNCO to conduct Arms Drill with the L98A2 without being supervised by Service Personnel?
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On a side note it appears one person has found a novel way of getting info out of HQ regarding Rifle Drill
In my 10 years of being in the forces I have never heard of this red screw thing and I have never seen one on a SUSAT and im pretty sure I would off after having one with me every day for 4 months in that sandy place on 4 tours.