F6424 CFMO Support - IBN 7 (2025) & IBN 014 (2026)

You don’t need to be ex mil and haven’t had to be for some time. As long as you meet the criteria (min 500hrs PiC, SEP experience and a CPL) then you can apply. Doesn’t mean you’ll get in though but 80% of our pilots are not ex mil.

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It’s what the VR wings exist for, isn’t it?

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Job advert for “FMO” - personally, I think some of the “desirable” considerations should be essential.

https://www.findforcesjobs.mod.gov.uk/vx/lang-en-GB/mobile-0/appcentre-1/brand-4/candidate/so/pm/1/pl/3/opp/20210-AAE-RAFAC-Aviation-Medical-Officer/en-GB

If this position becomes fully active from Jun 2026 (as per VoV - thanks Ben Wakefield), then we still have cadets who cannot be reviewed on any required F6424 action until then (at the earliest) = they can’t fly . On VoV, I’ve asked what interim solution can be found & also for an update to the IBN (011/25) concerning validity / extension of “current” F6424s.

Still no reply from my chasing email to (edit) Wg Cdr Steve Stanton - how rude.

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Thank you for everything you’re doing on behalf of every cadet who has to tick a yes box on the Av.Med.1. Both of my kids might never have flown under the current arrangements.

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It’s SO frustrating - no-one seems to care about cadets need F6424 action who are stuck in limbo = no flying.

RAFAC are asking for higher standards than they need to.

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As always - platinum standard when bronze would suffice. Just like drone flying. Especially when the other cadet forces are flying with other standards.

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What’s his job role again? Had a quick look in search, but couldn’t find a role?

SO1 Air Policy.

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I’ve heard stories of cadets handing in AvMED 1’s at version 5 that show they have been magically cured of conditions previously declared on earlier versions.

Personally, I’d do the same for my child if I thought they were being discriminated against.

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If it wasn’t for the values and standards I have to maintain for my profession — I’d do the same, too.

I do wonder if this had been risk assessed given the current situation. Are we in a position where trying to reduce risk may have actually increased it by encouraging the hiding of problems?

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Yes, most definitely.

Ah. But are we interested in risk to people, or risk of litigation?

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I would also have to agree, by saying yes and then not being able to fly, why would you say yes?

I would say that it’s a very high probability - cadets / parents aren’t daft. Unforeseen knock-on consequences of making things more difficult.

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“You can’t come to the squadron for the next few months because it doesn’t have a safety certificate. Instead, you’ll have to stay at home, which probably doesn’t have a safety certificate either. Or fire escapes, or extinguishers for that matter!”

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New IBN - 02 / 26 - to advise about placement of AMO:

It also refers to the F6424 / previous IBNs.

If I’ve read back through the other IBNs correctly, & the way that validity is expressed in text [”Cadets with valid F6424s (approved Fit to Fly by the CFMO) may continue to fly beyond the expiry date”], it seems to me that currently F624s have no expiry date.

So, if my reading is correct, why (medically) was there a one yr limit that is now busted? Is is safe / prudent (medically) to extend the F6424 without a refresh by the GP to confirm that the previous stated condition(s) haven’t got worse?

Surely there can’t be an original reason for a one yr validity that is superseded without CFMO authority? Withdrawal of F6424 was listed as ending 01 Jun 2025, (IBN 07 / 25), so a cadet nearing the validity date (one yr) would be coming up to about 2 yrs for Jun 2025 when the new AMO post is expected to be filled.

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I thought F6424’s were valid for 3 years?

AvMED 1 is now valid for 1 year.

Same principle - who can authorise an extension - for an unknown period?

V11 of the F6424 stated 2 yr validity.

CFMO post re-advertised; that’ll push things back a lot. :frowning:

Need a fix from RAFAC for F6424 support.

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