The new National Commander suspended it from what I’ve heard, and I’ve heard senior members talk about it
Yes, we allow CAP cadets to also participate in JROTC. Actually, CAP cadets can get accelerated promotions through JROTC! Also, I don’t know why CAP hasn’t said anything, but the entire program has been suspended.
CAP cadets or JROTC?
I think they were talking about the glider programme
Interesting! So if a Cadet is both AFJROTC and a CAP member, does the Civil Air Patrol duties represent the priority commitment because that is the USAF Auxiliary?
Also: as you age-out and graduate High School how does progression happen into Senior Membership?
Do some members who go on to college stay on as part of CAP, or do most leave to join AFROTC or ANG / other state guards?
Very odd! Yet no public announcements as yet. Please do keep us up to date
I don’t know about the first one, as I’m not in JROTC personally, but I can ask someone who does do both!
Oh, I don’t exactly know about the senior membership transition but I believe that if you get to a certain rank on the cadet side, you get a higher starting rank on the senior side.
Some members who go to college stay in, such as C/Maj. Jones, who’s in my squadron, but most people who do stay in CAP are also doing AFROTC, like the real ROTC.
And yes, I will keep you up to date!
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CAP cadets
I think we should have something like that. It would be another thing that makes post-18 cadet service worthwhile.
Isn’t it true that if a Cadet gets to C/Col, they can graduate from air force basic training as an Airman First Class rather than an Airman Basic?
Imagine being able to pass out as an SAC rather than a LAC (or whatever the new, worse new ranks are called) from Halton.
The problem with that is that the AS1 rank slide indicates that an aviator has passed their Professional Workplace Assessments (PWAs; formerly Trade Ability Tests or TATs) and is able to apply their professional (trade) training to their specific workplace. I don’t think any amount of changes to the RAFAC syllabus could ever position it to replace PWAs.
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What are your guys’s ranks like? And also, I showed some of my friends at CAP your guys’s uniforms and they laughed at the armbands 
Our ranks start at cadet and we have 4 NCO ranks - Corporal, Sergeant, Flight Sergeant and Cadet Warrant Officer, which is the highest rank a cadet can achieve. After promotion to Cpl we tend to get promotions every 1 - 2 years
Assuming they’re talking about the brassards - they’re where our qualification badges are sewn on, also one of 2 differences between our uniform and standard RAF uniform
However, I do think — with some adjustment to the syllabus to mirror phase 1 training — we could go the other way and shorten phase 1 training / MIOT for cadets who’ve achieved a certain level. We already do similar for transferees and re-joiners.
Flight sergeant is a rank?! In CAP and the Air Force, Flight Sergeant is a position, not a rank.
Oh that’s pretty cool
Oh that’s kinda cool, my friend did say it kinda makes you guys look like a certain group in a way (i’m not going to say the group but I think you guys know…) I don’t agree with that but I can kinda see where he’s coming from
FS is a NATO OR-7 (US E-7) rank, equivalent to staff sergeant in the Army or chief petty officer in the Royal Navy.
A lot of RAF ranks sound like positions:
- chief technician sounds like he or she should be the top technician, but they work for a flight sergeant;
- flight sergeant mirrors the use of ‘platoon sergeant’ for certain sergeants in the Army;
- squadron leader sounds like the leader of a squadron, and is used as a title for Army majors doing that job in the cavalry;
- wing commander sounds like the commander of a wing, and some do, but others command squadrons, or are in staff appointments; and
- group captains usually command stations: groups are commanded by air vice-marshals.
Oh, thats-still confusing
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It gets worse…
Out of RAF Land and into Air Cadet Land, Flight Lieutenants command squadrons not flights and Squadron Leaders aren’t directly attached or involved in a single squadron. Sqn Ldr roles are varied and are considered to be “Wing Staff Officers” or “Region Staff Officers”, working for the Wing (geographic collection of cadet squadrons and detached flights) or region (geographic collection of wings).
All wings are, however, run by Wing Commanders, but not all Wing Commanders run wings. Some are Region Staff Officers or have national HQ roles.
Our regions are commanded by FTRS Group Captains (Full Time Reserve Service, commissioned into the RAF and previously active-serving personnel) and nationally by an Air Commodore (also FTRS). Everyone up to Wing Commander is a volunteer, except some national and regional HQ staff who are also FTRS and these are both commissioned and non commissioned roles, salaried in line with the rank pay structure of the RAF same as the Group Captains and Air Commodore.
Oh and sometimes our squadrons are commanded by Sergeants, Flight Sergeants, Warrant Officers, Pilot Officers (lowest commissioned rank), or Flying Officers in the absence of an available Flight Lieutenant or commissioned officer eligible for promotion to Flight Lieutenant.
Confused enough yet?