We’ve stopped going to wing athletics as a Sqn for a number of years now even before Covid - to much expenditure of energy & Sqn CFAV time with a lot of sitting around for the cadets which just wastes their time. The cadets have voted with their feet so as it needs to be funded at Sqn level we don’t & save the money for something else.
I think this is sadly the right call but I remember debates from 20years back arguing for this position.
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Just to throw an additional factor into the whole wing & region sports mix. With the whole one RAFAC concept being pushed does this mean that the CCF unit should also be invited to wing & region sports?
If so I can see them quickly dominating as you would be able to arrange for the extra training as part of the normal school curriculum - a capacity along with facilities that is not available to the community ATC units.
Huh, TIL!
Is that really a thing though? In my experience you have the inter-squadron competition/trials at which the Cadets who already do the Sport at County level get picked for the Wing team and so on upwards.
Can the admins link this thread to the ‘Is the RAFAC in a death spiral’ thread?
I’d recommend not doing that. Separate thread makes things a lot easier to find later down the line!
I was talking specifically about national level sports.
I agree that Wing athletics and 5-a-side are generally popular and fun events. Although mainly for the social side though rather than the quality of the sports 
Both directions good enough?
You have the power to quote and use links by the way…
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Really does read like Clay shooting and Archery will both suffer as a result.
Is travel cost impacted by this? I assume so.
We really are soon gooing to be left with radio, cyber, space only…
And if really really good boys and girls once a year putting face paint on in the car park for Fieldcraft.
I fail to see how activities that already don’t get public funding will suffer when public funding gets cut.
The general theme that I’m taking from this thread is that most CFAVs probably aren’t that fussed if sports were to disappear. Not trying to stir the pot, but just to summarise what I’m reading - I’m planning a wing-wide review of sports anyhow (from before yesterday’s announcement) and it at least lets me know the general landscape before starting.
Is that a fair assessment?
From my point of view, I think sports in the organisation is pretty important, but mostly at a Sqn/Wing level. Much less so at Region/HQ.
I think there is loads gained from running inter-sqn sports events. Wing Athletics, Swimming, Football etc. Cadets and staff get to know those around them, as well as keeping fit etc. Also a good level to get those not normally interested involved.
But once you get up to the top level, all you’ve really got is cadets who already do that sport pretty seriously outside of cadets competing against others that are the same. Less to gain there imo.
As a CFAV, I would love sports to continue, however it is the cadets that I struggle to motivate to attend.
It doesn’t help that there is a lack of preparation for these events within the Wing and everything feels very last minute.
We did have a discussion on here a couple of years back about this so the thread may be useful to any review you do.
Out of interest, what sort of reasons for not wanting to attend are you hearing?
I see part of my role as attempting to remove barriers to participation.
I struggled to get enough for a 5-a-side team out of 40 cadets on parade!
Nonenof them gave a reason though
It’s not what the joined for as they do it at school & then it’s oversold on the quality of the event.
This is what I mainly get out of them for why no to athletics & cross country.
Don’t many people consider gliding to be a sport? 
And most target shooting…